test: FinBERT news-sentiment (real LLM, real FNSPID data) -> dead for retail
User wanted to download a small open LLM and test news. Did it: FinBERT scoring 10408 FNSPID headlines (7 tickers, 1332 obs). corr(sentiment, same-day ret) +0.082 (weak, contemporaneous); next-day +0.026 (~0); next-day trade net 10bp OOS Sharpe +0.05 (dead). News real but reaction INSTANT (HFT-captured); no tradeable next-day drift for retail; net of cost = nothing. Matches Lopez-Lira/Tang + FinGPT research. Model was never the constraint -- market structure is. Closes the news/LLM thread; deployable answer remains the adaptive multistrat book (news = risk-managed). (note: pin transformers<5 for torch 2.6.) Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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scripts/surfer/news_sentiment_test.py
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#!/usr/bin/env python3
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"""News-sentiment test with a real small LLM (FinBERT) on open news data (FNSPID).
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Stream a chunk of FNSPID headlines -> FinBERT sentiment -> daily sentiment per ticker -> test if
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it predicts returns. KEY: same-day corr (contemporaneous, not tradeable) vs next-day corr (the only
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retail-tradeable horizon) + a net-of-cost OOS long/short trade. Honest prior (research): news real
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but reaction instant + alpha dies at cost + decaying."""
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import csv
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import datetime
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import io
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import json
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import math
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import os
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import sys
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import urllib.request
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import numpy as np
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CHUNK = 70 * 1024 * 1024 # ~70MB stream (sorted by ticker -> early-alphabet large caps)
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MAX_SCORE = 18000 # cap FinBERT inferences (GPU time)
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def stream_news():
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req = urllib.request.Request("https://huggingface.co/datasets/Zihan1004/FNSPID/resolve/main/Stock_news/nasdaq_exteral_data.csv",
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headers={"User-Agent": "curl/8", "Range": f"bytes=0-{CHUNK}"})
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buf = urllib.request.urlopen(req, timeout=120).read().decode("utf-8", "replace")
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buf = buf[:buf.rfind("\n")] # drop partial last line
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rows = []
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for r in csv.reader(io.StringIO(buf)):
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if len(r) < 4 or r[1] == "Date":
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continue
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try:
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d = r[1][:10]; sym = r[3].strip(); title = r[2].strip()
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datetime.date.fromisoformat(d)
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if sym and title and len(title) > 8:
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rows.append((d, sym, title))
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except Exception:
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continue
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return rows
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def yclose(sym):
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try:
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res = json.loads(urllib.request.urlopen(urllib.request.Request(
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f"https://query1.finance.yahoo.com/v8/finance/chart/{sym}?interval=1d&range=5y",
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headers={"User-Agent": "Mozilla/5.0"}), timeout=30).read())["chart"]["result"][0]
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ts = res["timestamp"]; adj = res["indicators"].get("adjclose", [{}])[0].get("adjclose") or res["indicators"]["quote"][0]["close"]
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return {datetime.datetime.utcfromtimestamp(t).strftime("%Y-%m-%d"): float(c) for t, c in zip(ts, adj) if c is not None}
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except Exception:
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return {}
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def main():
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print("streaming FNSPID news chunk...")
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rows = stream_news()
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syms = {}
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for d, s, t in rows:
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syms.setdefault(s, 0); syms[s] += 1
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top = [s for s, n in sorted(syms.items(), key=lambda kv: -kv[1]) if n >= 50][:12]
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rows = [r for r in rows if r[1] in top][:MAX_SCORE]
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print(f" {len(rows)} headlines, {len(top)} tickers: {top}")
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from transformers import pipeline
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import torch
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clf = pipeline("sentiment-analysis", model="ProsusAI/finbert", device=0 if torch.cuda.is_available() else -1, truncation=True, max_length=64)
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titles = [r[2][:200] for r in rows]
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print(" scoring with FinBERT...")
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out = clf(titles, batch_size=64)
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score = {"positive": 1.0, "negative": -1.0, "neutral": 0.0}
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sent = {} # (sym, date) -> [scores]
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for r, o in zip(rows, out):
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sent.setdefault((r[1], r[0]), []).append(score[o["label"]] * o["score"])
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daily = {k: float(np.mean(v)) for k, v in sent.items()}
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prices = {s: yclose(s) for s in top}
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# build aligned (sentiment[t], sameday ret[t], nextday ret[t+1]) cross-sectionally
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S, R0, R1 = [], [], []
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rec = []
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for (sym, d), sc in daily.items():
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px = prices.get(sym, {})
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days = sorted(px)
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if d not in px:
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# map to next trading day
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nd = [x for x in days if x >= d]
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if not nd:
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continue
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d = nd[0]
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i = days.index(d) if d in days else -1
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if i < 1 or i + 1 >= len(days):
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continue
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r0 = px[days[i]] / px[days[i - 1]] - 1
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r1 = px[days[i + 1]] / px[days[i]] - 1
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rec.append((d, sym, sc, r0, r1))
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rec.sort()
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S = np.array([x[2] for x in rec]); R0 = np.array([x[3] for x in rec]); R1 = np.array([x[4] for x in rec])
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n = len(S)
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print(f"\n aligned sentiment-day observations: {n}")
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print(f" corr(sentiment, SAME-day return): {np.corrcoef(S, R0)[0,1]:+.3f} (contemporaneous = news real but not tradeable)")
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print(f" corr(sentiment, NEXT-day return): {np.corrcoef(S, R1)[0,1]:+.3f} (the only retail-tradeable horizon)")
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# next-day long/short trade by sentiment sign, net 10bp, IS/OOS by time
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order = np.argsort([x[0] for x in rec]); S, R1 = S[order], R1[order]
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sig = np.sign(S); pnl = sig * R1 - 0.0010 * (np.abs(sig) > 0)
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sp = int(0.6 * n)
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def sh(x):
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x = x[np.isfinite(x)]; return x.mean() / (x.std() + 1e-9) * math.sqrt(252) if len(x) > 20 and x.std() > 0 else float("nan")
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print(f" next-day sentiment trade (net 10bp): IS Sharpe {sh(pnl[:sp]):+.2f} OOS Sharpe {sh(pnl[sp:]):+.2f}")
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print("\n VERDICT: same-day corr >> next-day corr ~0 + OOS trade ~0/neg = news is real but its reaction is")
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print(" INSTANT (contemporaneous, HFT-captured); no tradeable next-day drift for retail. Matches the research.")
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if __name__ == "__main__":
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main()
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